[Legend Top 100] Meta Crusher C'Thun Warrior 85...
- Last updated Dec 19, 2016 (Gadgetzan)
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Wild
- 17 Minions
- 11 Spells
- 2 Weapons
- Deck Type: Ranked Deck
- Deck Archetype: Control Warrior
- Crafting Cost: 12680
- Dust Needed: Loading Collection
- Created: 10/21/2016 (Yogg Nerf)
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Updates:
Thank you all for making this deck list to Front page! (^_^)
December - Updated C'thun list to hit Legend for the month of December. Check it out!
November - Want to share another deck I've climbed from rank 5 to 3 with a 71% win rate. Check it out!
Hit Legend from rank 2 using this deck without Harrison. 13-3 record.
Oct. 31 - Made Top 100 again. Added video replays against Purple and Fibonacci
Oct. 28 - Made Top 100
Oct. 27 - Trying to get top 100 with the deck but I don't have a lot of free time to play. Currently stuck at rank 104.
Oct. 26 - Lost a game to maly druid and totemic might shaman. Won a few games including this one against a friend. Talk about Antonidas value, I survived 6 fireballs and additional burn spells. Replay here
Deck record - 18:3 to Legend - 9:0 at Legend
Oct. 25 - Posting two more replays. Unfortunate lost due to computer crashing while i try to record with new software. Lost turn 5 which was critical which eventually led to lost.
Second replay was against Legend rank 2 player so check that out!
Currently testing -1 acoltye +1 Harrison
- Played another 2 more games. won and currently rank 128
Oct. 24 - Played two more games and won both. Rank 167 Legend. Videos of game play hitting Top 200 Legend are in description below.
Oct. 23 - Added more replays at L rank, started a mulligan/strategy section and substitution section.
Currently undefeated with the deck (4-0) at Legend rank, hovering rank 230.
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Hi,
I'm Danny and is a regular Legend player, hitting Legend every season. With the rise and dominance of Mid range Shaman, I wanted to create a deck to counter it instead of joining the dark side. Shaman doesn't have much counters and even freeze mage is only 5% favored against it. To counter Shaman, you really have to tech in cards against them. I wanted to create a deck that's good against shaman and still holds a good to fair win rate against other decks. I have played around with other classes but finalize on C'thun warrior with two Tech cards, Revenge and Baron Geddon. There's another tech card worth considering which is Harrison Jones but I can talk more about it later.
My stats were 18-3 hitting Legend with two losses where one game was due to unlucky draws and another to unlucky Rng. I believe i should've won those two games, leading to an even higher win rate. I have replays for all my games so I'll try to post some or all later if there's enough interest.
I entered Legend at rank 381 as shown below.
Replays against Shaman
1) https://hsreplay.net/replay/xqUfWt5ZMaVG8CtEvYXqrQ
2) https://hsreplay.net/replay/otXFnBZ7sJzwp5cNyqxF4G
3) https://hsreplay.net/replay/Shbhsba4gcUYsc623crM2T
4) https://hsreplay.net/replay/UAmLEXJw7g4jmGnyi9B2KW
5) https://hsreplay.net/replay/QqyEFbcZifvtnj46Eyw3Dg
6) https://hsreplay.net/replay/u3cUnsQxgmcfhxgbxf4KhG
Last two games were against same opponent back to back
Use and time your board clears carefully as Shamans can refill the board the next turn very easily. I also used my health as a resource as Shamans don't have the burst they used to.
Replays at Legend Rank
1) Against Maly Druid - https://hsreplay.net/replay/s5PP6sRnSgouQAgV2nQEML
- He did not know what to do against me and forced to concede.
2) Against Shaman - uploaded Oct. 22 - https://hsreplay.net/replay/rkVZGtHnBVPzA9MvJitkUS
3) Against Dragon Priest - https://hsreplay.net/replay/j4zWceeBqhPRrYXdMdFc8E
4) Control Priest - https://hsreplay.net/replay/39t9GXAQGAY5kBxXKoiipY
- Toughest match so far in Legend. Not knowing what type of cards he's running, and his sylvannas surviving two brawls gave little hope in winning. Watch and analyze the plays in the last 15 turns. I recommend pausing before I make my plays and see if you'll do the same. Timing when to play the cards was very critical here.
5) Tempo Mage - Surviving 6 fireballs and more
6) Lost to Maly Druid but look at his start with innervate and ramp.
7) Lost to Totemic Might Shaman - Apparently revenge and baron geddon are not good against 4 health totems.
8) Shaman
9) More Shaman - Where playing aggressive shaman doesn't pay off.
Video Game Play at Legend Rank
2) C'Thun Warrior vs Shaman Top 200 gameplay
3) Vs. Rogue - My computer crashed, losing turn 5 to rope. Part 1 - Part 2
5) Vs. Warrior
6) Vs. Shaman
7) Vs. Purple
8) Vs. Fibonacci Part 1------------- Part 2
Strategy and Mulligan
Shaman -
A) Fiery War Axe
B) Disciple of C'thun, Ravaging Ghoul. Keep 1 without the coin. Both if you have the coin or have War Axe.
C) Keep Slam if you have any of the above cards.
With these cards, you should be able to challenge any early game cards shaman throws at you.
Control early threats from Shaman and prevent them from snowballing. Do not waste premium removals (Shield slam & Exe) on weak minions unless it provides a huge tempo swing. I usually use shield slam & Execute only on thing from belows, fire elementals, or thunderbluffs. Thing from below and Fire ele can be dealt without premium removals since they have 5 health BUT Thunderbluff is more difficult. I usually save one premium removal in hand for thunderbluff. Use your AOE and boar clears wisely. Don't use them on 3 or 4 minions/totems that are not causing much threat. If you are not close to dying, taking 4-5 damage from their minions/totems is fine. Bait out their big guys.
The faster(aggressive) they play, the better my odds in winning because they play into the board clears. They are more dangerous when they slow play and into fatigue.
Against aggro - Control their early flood of minions with removal and aoes. They will run out of resources and you win.
Against control- play the fatigue war, armor up and outlast outlast them. Be conservative with your C'thun against priest/warrior. Usually, don't play it unless you can lethal them or you need to prevent their lethal on board.
Against CW - Play the fatigue game. don't draw cards. save harrison for gorehowl only. Sometimes i don't even play harrison to minimize the one draw. Play C'thun for final blow (when both players are in fatigue and you're c'thun + their next fatigue damage will kill them).
Difficult Match ups
Midrange Hunter and Control Warrior.
Against Control Warrior, you will need to sub in Harrison for their gorehowl and maybe doomcaller. This will make the deck weak against other archetypes (shamans) so I don't recommend it unless you are facing a lot of warrior.
Midrange Hunter has always been a bad match up for Control warriors. At least there's only one call of the wild these days.
Substitutions
Revenge or Barron Geddon can be subbed by Harrison Jones
If you have questions/comments, write it below and I'll try to answer them.
With enough likes or +
- I'll create a more thorough discussion about playing the deck and against classes.
- Post more replays
- Discussion about tech cards
- Video game play or discussion
Also, as you noticed, this is not a super unique deck list as C'Thun warrior have been around.
Thanks for stopping by.
Players hitting Legend with this deck. Let me know if I miss someone (msg me).
1) matimana
2) futhead_ezah82290
3) ocktvan
4) luskyerz
5) futhead_MORELAS
6) ACIDTorak
acoltye for harrison, beckoner of evil for worshipper.
easy 5 rang
Just hit top 100.
Congratulations! :)
Great deck! Only card I think is under performing is Harrison Jones. Sometimes I feel like the 2 mana Ooze would be better. Anyone ever try this?
Great against Shaman (3-0), not so great against Murloc Paladin (0-3). MP is made to punish control though so that's not the deck's fault. This is at Rank 10.
Yeah. i'm surprise you run into so many murloc pally, they don't have amazing match ups at the moment.
I was shocked too! 3 in a row.
How do you beat CW without Elise?
fatigue and c'thun. harrison his gorehowl.
I altered it and put a Doom in, and Cthuning twice pretty much guarantees beating CW
Ok , Let me preamble this with I like the deck. Im 6-2 with it at Rank 4 and one loss was terrible RNG. The deck and your play are fine.
Your attitude is trash though. I am a streamer myself, nothing major just 4k followers 100-200 viewers. Im not big time by any means, but Ive been doing it longer than Hearthstone has been a game, from Magic. And one thing Ive learned , is when you take all this time to put together a post about the deck, outlined in nice precise manners, you clearly care about what people think about it.
So when a guy asks you about Brann, and you are like its been answered above, I understand that reply sort of. But when another guy, responds in a civil manner that maybe in the future instead of that kind of answer , you simply include it in the guide if its a question that is asked often (which is highly sound advice) and you devolve into some trash talk about others being too lazy to read through pages, and eventually into UMADBRO , like literally umadbro, then you should do some self examination. You aren't making any fans by acting like that. Ive been there, Ive chased away viewers with condescension myself. Im speaking from experience.
The most ironic part of it all is that when you were talking about others being to lazy to read through pages, it was hypocritical, because you have been to lazy to A) take that advice and put an FAQ section in your post and B) have been too lazy yourself to actually update the post after updating the main deck list.
Long story short.
Good deck. Nice play. Step down off your high horse though. You were rude multiple times in this thread to people who were civil when asking you legitimate questions.
Why don't you PM him instead? This seems more of a personal message as opposed to being for the general public.
Because he chose to condescend his viewership/possible fan base in public. What is good for the goose, is good for the gander, it also serves to drive the point home through personal reaction in the event empathy is lacking.
Dear diary......
Why do you care how he acts and what makes you think your opinion is needed/wanted on the matter. If someone doesn't like the way he does things they are capable of standing up for themselves.
Thanks for playing Dr. Phil and giving unwanted lessons on life improvement. Now you can go back to living your dream of being a big time streamer. GL
i really like the brann + ancient shieldbarer synergy, what would be a good card to sub him in?
This is the first deck I have commented on but I had to for this one. As aself professed midrange shaman player the deck began to become very boring and the mirror matchups were difficult and all came down to rng. I tried out this deck and damn it is the best decision I have ever made. 100% winrate against 10 shamans so far. It helped me through the push from rank 10-5. Might go for legend now. Thanks a lot for this deck.
Always encouraging to hear. Good Luck and Have Fun! :)
I Can see how good this can be but ultimately went from rank 3 2 stars to rank 4 1 star. Aggro decks and his etc overwhelming me before I can board/armor even